PRABHUPADA IS A TRUE RUPANUGA, QUOTES BY SRILA NARAYANA MAHARAJA
Sudevi Devi Dasi…
For those of you who don't want to search for endless hours through thousands of comments to find Srila Gurudeva's quotes on the Glories of our Srila Prabhupada being a true Rupanuga, here is a compilation…
Please note, most of his lectures, especially from the 90s have not yet been transcribed. There are many, many more references to be found.
Happy reading! May your Nistha in Srila Gurudeva's words, moods, and teachings ever increase!
Srila Narayana Maharaja…
"It is sometimes thought that Srila Svami Maharaja is only in sakhya-rasa – that is, in his constitutional spiritual form he is a cowherd friend of Krsna. When I hear this I experience pain in my heart, for the complete conception of him is that he is in madhurya-rasa. Sakhya-rasa is included within madhurya-rasa, so sakhya-bhava is also within him, but he is in madhurya-rasa…
When you are situated in raganuga-bhakti, you will be able to factually see that his relationship with Sri Sri Radha and Krsna is in gopi-bhava. Then you can deeply think of his services to the Divine Couple in nikunja yuno rati keli siddhyai. " Srila Gurudeva
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"Rupa Gosvami, in the form of Rupa-manjari in Krsna-lila, used to always serve Srimati Radhika at Her home.
She was always preparing Her bath, decorating, always helping Her to meet Krsna, and doing all services.
Raghunatha dasa Gosvami is like this also, as Rati-manjari he is always with Radhika. If Krsna will call her, she will never come to serve Krsna…
So now this paribarsa, definition, of gurudeva is somewhat changed. And what will it be now? Those who are following Rupa Gosvami are actually guru.
I’ve so much strong belief, some realization also, that Swamiji was one of them.
So if anyone is following Swamiji totally, inwardly and outwardly, then he is a pure guru.
But if he is guru only for money or for praise, then he is not really guru.
This is going on now everywhere. Actually, that class of persons is not guru. They think they will have to go to the universities nowadays, to read something, advaitavada.
If someone loses faith in his guru's word, harinama eva kevalam, then he’s not actually a guru.
Reject such persons. If they don’t have strong faith in bhakti, especially in rupanuga-dhara, I think they should be rejected, because our whole guru-parampara from Rupa Gosvami is rupanuga-vaisnava. Rupanuga-guru-varga—ki jaya!
So we should know all this. If you did not know this in the beginning, no harm.
But try to know what they are, why you are doing “jaya” of rupanuga-guru-varga. Who are the rupanuga-guru-vaisnavas?
Who is rupanuga? Who is Rupa Gosvami?
We should try to know all these things. Then we are actually vaisnavas, otherwise we are not in the line of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu and Rupa Gosvami. Raghunatha dasa is telling all these things in that way."
Srila Bhaktivedanta Narayana Maharaja
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"We see in our guru-gayatri, 'krsnanandaya dhimahi'.
This refers to both Krsna and Krsnaa. [Spelled in Sanskrit, k-r-s-n-a with a long ‘a’ at the end.]
Any male can serve Krsna, but no male can serve Krsnaa.
Krsnaa is Radhika.
Therefore, in his service to Radhika, for rati-keli-siddhyai, a guru cannot serve in his male form.
Srila Swami Maharaja and my Gurudeva are both serving there in their female forms as gopis.
In that realm my Gurudeva is Vinoda Manjari, Srila Prabhupada Bhaktisiddanta Sarasvati Thakura is Nayana Manjari, Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura is Kamala Manjari, Srila Jiva Gosvami is Vilasa Manjari, Srila Rupa Gosvami is Rupa Manjari, and Srila Raghunatha dasa Gosvami is Rati Manjari.
These manjaris can serve Radha-Krsna Conjugal. "
Srila Bhaktivedanta Narayana Maharaja
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" So Srila Swami Maharaja came only to preach this mission.
As I told before, however, he saw that the land was barren, not fertile. There were so many weeds and thorn trees here and there.
Although he had to cut all these things, he actually came to give something else—the same thing that Rupa Gosvami came to give: "Sri Caitanya mano'bhistam sthapitam yena bhutale.
Because he understood the innermost desire of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, he was able to establish His mission in this world." Therefore first know who he is; then you can glorify him.
You should not think that he was only a preacher of harinama.
You should not think that he only wrote so many books, and published and distributed them.
This is not his glory. What is his glory? He is a Rupanuga Vaisnava—serving Radha-Krsna conjugal in the same way as Rupa Manjari. "
Srila Bhaktivedanta Narayana Maharaja
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Srila Gurudeva Bhaktivedanta Narayana Goswami Maharaja revealed,
"This is actually the glory of Srila Swami Maharaja – that he was rupanuga, that he was absorbed in the service of the lotus feet of Radha and Krsna in the line of Srila Rupa Gosvamipada, following in the footsteps and guidance of Sri Rupa Manjari."
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"The day was Visvarüpa-mahotsava [in September, 1959], and many senior Vaisnavas and disciples of Srila Prabhupäda Bhaktisiddhänta Sarasvati Thäkura were present at Sri Keshavaji Gaudiya Matha.
At that time my Gurudeva gave Srila Swämi Mahäräja the sannyäsa-mantra.
Uttering this mantra is not merely a formality. It is chanted to attain the service of the gopis – to enter into the mood of the gopis".
He was really a rüpänuga-vaisnava.
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" Sri Caitanya Mahäprabhu established näma with vraja-prema, and this was His specialty.
It was also the specialty of parama-püjyapäda Srila Swämi Mahäräja, so I have glorified him by establishing that he has come in the line of
Sri Caitanya Mahäprabhu and Srila Rüpa Gosvämi.
Just as Sri Caitanya Mahäprabhu did, he has also established yuga-dharma, and he was a rüpänuga Vaisnava, a follower of Rüpa Gosvämi, Rüpa Manjari. "
Srila Bhaktivedanta Narayana Maharaja
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"Who is guru?
Those who have taken some jewels from the treasury of Srimati Rädhikä.
And what is that jewel? Here Swamiji has told—to serve Srimati Rädhikä like Rüpa Manjari. This is the jewel!
Only those who have this jewel can give it to you.
Otherwise, those who have no jewels like this, how can they give anything?
They can only tell what they have realized: “Bring money to build a mandira.” Or, “I am giving you a visa for Goloka Vrindävana and you will directly go there.”
What is the value of such a promise? To give this jewel is the main reason why Prabhupäda came, but I think that those who are making false promises have not understood their guru’s true glory.
So guru is he who has the jewel from the treasure-house of Srimati Rädhikä."
Srila Bhaktivedanta Narayana Maharaja
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Dear Sripad B.V. Tripurari Maharaja,
Please accept my heartly dandavats pranams. All glories to Sri Sri Guru and Gauranga, all glories to Sri Sri Radha Vinode Bihariji.
I received your letter and became very happy to hear from you after a long, long time.
Regarding the contents of your message, if you have strong belief that your Gurumaharaja was in sakhya mood, I have no objection. I do not desire to enter into debate – argument and counter argument.
You should understand that I know Sri Srimad Bhaktivedanta Swami Maharaja from beginning, since 1946. He is my siksa guru, also he is my bosom friend; many times we were laughing and joking together.
So, I know him and I have a strong belief that he is in gopi bhava, following the mood of Sri Rupa Manjari. You will not be able to change my conviction and I request that you will not try to do this. I am satisfied that you have a strong faith that your Gurumaharaja is in sakhya bhava. But I want to inform you that Rupanuga means that he follows Srila Rupa Gosvami and Sri Rupa Manjari.
I also know that he was familiar with this sloka:
'aradhyo bhagavan vrajesa tanayas tad dhama vrndavanam / ramya kacid upasana vraja vadhu vargena ya kalpita / srimad bhagavatam pramanam amalam prema pum-artho mahan / sri caitanya mahaprobhor matam idam tatradaro nah parah'
He has also read Sri Bhaktirasamrta Sindhu and Sri Ujjvala Nilamani; thus he was able to select the best method of worship.
Also he was familiar with:
'anarpita-carim cirat karunayavatirna kalau samarpayitum unnatojjvala rasam sva bhakti sriyam
Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu has come to give raganuga marg and especially within this raganuga marg the mood of Sri Rupa Manjari.
Thus I cannot admit anything else, but I appreciate your belief that he was in sakhya bhava.
Vaisnavadasanudasa, Swami B.V. Narayan
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From: Swami B.V. Narayan <swamibvnarayan@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, May 15, 2009 at 11:58 PM
Subject: Re: a few more considerations
To: swami bv tripurari <swamibvt@earthlink.net>
Both Srila Bhaktivinode Thakur and Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Prabhupada, they have told them selves what is their siddha svarupa – Sri Kamala Manjari and Sri Nayana Manjari. Our all Rupanuga Acarayas are manjaris.
Most important thing is that at the time of diksa a bona fide Gurudeva in our parampara gives Gopal mantra and Kama gayatri. In these two mantras he gives the transcendental relationship of the disciple with Sri Krsna, which is the same as the transcendental relationship that the gopis have with Sri Krsna.
Secondly, the bona fide sannyasa guru, at the time of sannyasa initiation, according Samskara Dipika, he is giving gopibhava and the disciple admits this. This point makes it even more clear.
Still, I appreciate your belief that he was in sakhya bhava.
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"I want to give the real objective of Srila Swämi Mahäräja’s preaching. Some persons without devotion are preaching and dancing in nagar-saìkértana and simul-taneously making money and situating themselves in good positions.
A new boy, just coming to Krsna consciousness, can dance vigorously for twenty-four hours, but this does not indicate spiritual advancement. This is not such a high thing. It is the mood that is important.
Srila Swämi Mahäräja was not dancing by his own will.
His dancing was fully controlled by the mood of the gopis, and he wanted to give that highest love and affection. This is the main principle to understand."
Srila Bhaktivedanta Narayana Maharaja Srila Gurudeva
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"By Srila Swämi Mahäräja’s inspiration I came to know that many disciples were misunderstanding his real identity.
They were guessing that his constitutional form is that of a cowherd friend of Krsna.
When I heard this, I experienced so much pain in my heart for them – they did not have accurate knowledge or feelings about him.
I realized that it is my duty to give them faith in the complete conception of him, that he is in mädhurya-rasa. Sakhya-rasa is included within mädhurya-rasa, so sakhya-bhäva is also within him."
Srila Bhaktivednta Narayana Maharaja Srila Gurudeva
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Srila Gurudeva Bhaktivedanta Narayana Gosvami Maharaja – Balarama's Appearance day 1992:
"…God was so much pleased and He could not live without Swamiji so He called him home. He wanted that in this stage he should only preach vaidhi-bhakti, so he preached only as sanatana Gosvami has done. But he has written in Caitanya-caritamrta in explanation of the dialogue between Raya Ramananda and Caitanya Mahaprabhu, gopi bina aie bhava naie aswardhana – only gopis, creepers, leaves and manjaris of Radhika, they can realize this lila, pastimes of Krsna, kunja-seva and all these things. Without gopi-bhava Laxmi, Sankar, Brahma, even Uddhava could not taste all these things. So he was given by his gurudeva this mantra and he has given you all these mantras, so don't think that he was in sakhya-rasa. A madhurya rasa guru can give santa, dasya, sakhya, vatsalya and madhurya. Those who are qualified he will give only this bhava, otherwise he will give only santa, dasya, sakhya…. So if he has written sakhya-bhava anywhere, it is alright."
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Srila Gurudeva Bhaktivedanta Narayana Gosvami Maharaja – Srila Prabhupada's rooms, Bombay 1990. Conversation:
"..So someone tells that he was only of sakhya rasa. But I have the opinion that he was of Madhurya-rasa and he can give any of five rasa's to his disciples. Especially he can give madhurya-rasa to his sannyasi's. So, he can have all these things in him and I hold the opinion that he is surely, no doubt, the shakti of Radha and Krsna, and was sent by them to this world to preach the name of Radha and Krsna and Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu…"
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"Only one who is equal to his self-realized Guru can understand his depth.
A kanistha-adhikäri (novice devotee) and a madhyama-adhikäri (intermediate devotee) cannot guess how deep his feelings are.
They cannot begin to imagine the fathomless moods of krsna-prema and rädhä-prema in their Guru’s heart.
Without being an uttama-adhikäri, a topmost pure devotee, one cannot understand.
Kanistha- and madhyama-adhikäri devotees can see his height, his açharya (opulence), the way in which he collected disciples and very quickly preached all over the world.
But it is more valuable to see his depth.
He has not collected disciples just so we can experience his height.
He ultimately brought us to him with the sole aim of giving us his deep thoughts.
Of course this will take time; it could take many births to realize this. When I look towards him and remember his orders,
I become moved, knowing that he is engaged in nikuïja-yüno rati-keli-siddhyai. "
Srila Bhaktivedanta Narayana Maharaja Srila Gurudeva
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"When you are situated in raganuga-bhakti, you will be able to factually see his (Srila Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada) relationship with Sri Sri Radha and Krsna in gopi-bhava.
Then you can deeply think of his services to the Divine Couple in nikuïja-yüno rati-keli-siddhyai."
Srila Bhaktivedanta Narayana Maharaja Srila Gurudeva
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"Only the acaryas coming in the line of Sri Caitanya Mahäprabhu through Srila Rupa Gosvämi are rupanuga.
So how is it possible that Srila Swami Maharaja could have come only to give vaidhi-bhakti?
I have known Srila Swami Maharaja since 1946, and I never saw him in that way.
I know personally that he has not come only to give vaidhi-bhakti. He came to preach rupanuga-bhakti."
Srila Bhaktivedanta Narayana Maharaja Srila Gurudeva
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"When the pure devotee takes samadhi, it means that upon departing from this world he enters the same level, position and spiritual mood as the personal associates of his worshipful Deity.
He is serving in that realm according to his own svarupa (constitutional form), with equal qualities, intelligence and beauty as those associates.
Srila Swami Maharaja’s worshipful Deity is Srimati Radhika, and he serves Her under the guidance of Her personal associates, the manjaris.
Your Srila Prabhupada has preached about Lord Jagannatha-deva, Sri Krsna-Balarama and various manifestations of Sri Sri Radha-Krsna.
But from his writings, books and personal meetings and visits, I am absolutely sure that his worshipful Deity is Srimati Radhika, and he sees Sri Krsna as Her Beloved.
If one has the mood to assist in his Guru’s service to Sri Rupa-manjari or Srimati Radhika, he renders the best service.
I do not know why Srila Swami Maharaja gave me the mercy of giving him uddipana as he entered samadhi.
I performed this service by decorating him with tilaka and by writing certain sacred mantras with sandalwood paste on his chest.
These decorations indicated his personal services to his worshipful Deity, Srimati Radhika. "
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"Srila Swami Maharaja was surely in mädhurya-rasa. Some may say, why not sakhya-rasa? I am not denying this, because everything is present in madhurya-rasa. All other rasas, like vatsalya-rasa, sakhya-rasa, and so on, are included in madhurya-rasa.
So it may be said that all rasas were in him; he was not deprived of sakhya-rasa.
He had written some statements in his poems, and he had special affection for Gaura-Nitai and Krsna-Balarama.
But he was certainly in mädhurya-rasa, because his sannyasa-guru, my gurudeva, gave him the sannyasa-mantra, the gopi-bhava-mantra, in our rupanuga line.
Just as Srila Rupa Goswami, Srila Jiva Goswami, Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura and
his gurudeva were in this rasa, and just as he wrote in his realizations, in the purports of his books, he was surely in madhurya-rasa."
Srila Bhaktivedanta Narayana Maharaja
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Again, Srila Gurudeva Bhaktivedanta Narayana Goswami Maharaja emphatically establishes his position:
"We should pray that a day will come that we can serve under the guidance of the gopis, especially being the maidservant of Srimati Radhika, under the guidance of Lalita, Visakha, and Rupa-manjari. This is gaura-vani.
Srila Bhaktivedanta Swami Maharaja preached this, but in the beginning he had to cut so many jungles of mayavada, nirvesesa, and sahajiya philosophies. He saw that in order to make the land of the world fertile, it would take a long time. He therefore put all these truths in his transcendental literatures……
YOU SHOULD KNOW ALL THIS VANI, AND BE VERY STRONG IN PREACHING AND IN GLORIFYING YOUR PRABHUPADA. GAURA-VANI-PRACARINE. KRSNA HAS SENT HIM FOR THIS.
After our Srila Rupa Gosvami, Srila Jiva Gosvami, and Srila Raghunatha dasa Gosvami came, Srila Narottama dasa Thakura, Srila Syamananda prabhu came, and after that Srila Visvanatha Cakravarti Thakura, Srila Baladeva Vidyabhusana, Srila Jagannatha dasa Babaji Maharaja, Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura, Srila Prabhupada Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura, and then our Gurudeva and so many associates of Srila Prabhupada. One of Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura's hands was Srila Bhaktivedanta Swami Maharaja, who came to the western countries, and in a couple of years preached everywhere. We should try to know his glories. Gaura-vani has so much deep meaning, but the meaning is very hidden. Don't think there is no reason for the word 'gaura-vani.'
Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati is described in his pranama mantra to be gaura-vani murti. [Namaste gaura-vani sri murtaye dina-tarine.] Murti means embodiment. He is the embodiment of gaura-vani, and Srila Swami Maharaja, your Prabhupada, is in the SAME LINE. He is NOT DIFFERENT from Srila Prabhupada Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura……
Srila Bhaktivedanta Swami Maharaja and Srila Prabhupada Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura are both followers of Srila Rupa Gosvami, and therefore THEY ARE RUPANUGA."
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"It cannot be true that he has only come to preach vaidhi-bhakti, because the entire disciplic succession of our Gaudiya mission is rupanuga. Srila Nimbäditya Äcärya’s sampradäya is also ragäauga, but of Dväraka. It is mixed with a conception of the Lord’s opulence, following the moods of Satyabhämä and Rukmini, and therefore it is not pure raganuga. Nimbaditya Äcarya’s followers are not like those of Srila Rupa Goswami. Only the acäryas coming in the line of Sri Caitanya Mahäprabhu through Srila Rupa Gosvämi are rupanuga.
So how is it possible that Srila Swämi Maharaja could have come only to give vaidha-bhakti? I have known Srila Swami Maharaja since 1946, and I never saw him in that way. I know personally that he has not come only to give vaidha-bhakti. He came to preach rupanuga-bhakti."
Srila Gurudeva
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"Those who want to serve like ragatmikas are called sadhakas (practitioners) of raganuga. If one follows this path, inwardly meditating, “How can I serve Lord Krsna like Mother Yasoda or Nanda Baba?” he is raganuga, not rupanuga.
Those who follow Srila Rupa Gosvami’s Bhakti-rasämåta-sindhu under the guidance of the sakhas, like Subala, Sridama and all others like them, desiring to serve Lord Krsna like them, will also not be called rupanuga.
They will be called raganuga.
Parama-pujyapada Srila Bhaktivedänta Swami Maharaja has come especially to give this rupanuga-bhakti, and what to speak of vaidhi-bhakti.
He did not come only to give raganuga-bhakti. At that time, however, he could not give this to his general disciples because most of them were not at the stage to understand. Even now, although I am endeavoring with great effort to make you understand this subject matter, only a few are trying to understand."
Srila Gurudeva
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"Rupanuga means to serve Srimati Radhika, nothing else……. Swamiji has come to give this rupanuga line to us."
(Srila Gurudeva, Essence of All Advice ch. 10)
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"Srila Swami Maharaja has so much transcendental greed to serve Kunja-Bihari.
A cowherd boy does not have these sentiments and exalted conceptions.
The reference to gopi-jana-vallabha in this song is also in our gopala-mantra, and it filled his heart.
He desired to give the service of gopi-jana-vallabha as performed by the gopis.
He saw that there were only a few in this world who were qualified for this; the number could be counted on one’s fingers.
Thus, in order to gradually bring his audiences to a level of understanding, he preached about Lord Jagannatha-deva and established Deities of Sri Sita-Rama and Sri Krsna-Balarama"
Srila Bhaktivedanta Narayana Maharaja Gurudeva.
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Srila Gurudeva speaking about Srila Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada:
"I am assuring you that he was rupanuga. Why rupanuga? We will have to try to understand what rupanuga is, who Rupa is, what his mood is, and how we can adopt it. This is not offensive. If we are not doing this, it is offensive, being in the line of Caitanya Mahaprabhu."
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Srila Bhaktivedanta Narayana Goswami Maharaja:
"So Srila Swami Maharaja was not an ordinary person whom you can know and realize. You have to come to his level, and then you can understand who he is and why he came to this world. He is not an ordinary historical person.
If you don’t know who he is, how can you glorify him? Sri Svarupa Damodara can glorify Caitanya Mahaprabhu, Sri Raya Ramananda can glorify Him, and Srila Rupa Gosvami can also glorify Him—because their standard or level is the same as that of Krsna. They are always His eternal associates. So you must know who Prabhupada, your Gurudeva, was. He was not an ordinary devotee. He came to fulfill the desire of Caitanya Mahaprabhu, He preached the same mission as told by Srila Rupa Gosvami. He is a follower of Rupa Gosvami, and he was very happy to say that, “I am Rupanuga”. You should know what is Rupanuga. Even Srila Sanatana Gosvami, the Guru of Rupa Gosvami, felt very great happiness in thinking that, “I am a follower of Srila Rupa Gosvami. I should follow Rupa. He is so high.”
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[Srila Bhaktivedanta Narayana Goswami Maharaja:]
"Those who are always present there (Radha Kunda) in their transcendental bodies, under the guidance of Sri Rupa-manjari and Sri Rati-manjari, are the topmost devotees. We want to follow them.
This is the mood of Srila Rupa Gosvami and Srila Raghunatha dasa Gosvami, and also the mood of Srila Bhaktivedanta Swami Maharaja.
This is actually the highest glorification of Srila Swami Maharaja.
If one does not understand this glory, he is unfortunate because he is not actually touching his glory. Such a person cannot glorify him properly.
Devotees must appreciate him for his most elevated qualities, especially describing his highest love and affection for Srimati Radhika.
We should not desire that all high-class devotees, uttama-bhagavatas, come down to the level of kanistha-adhikaris. I know that Srila Swami Maharaja wanted to be there in Govardhana forever, and to serve there."
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[Srila Gurudeva Bhaktivedanta Narayana Goswami Maharaja:]
" It is sometimes thought that Srila Svami Maharaja is only in sakhya-rasa – that is, in his constitutional spiritual form he is a cowherd friend of Krsna. WHEN I HEAR THIS I EXPERIENCE PAIN IN MY HEART, for the complete conception of him is that he is in madhurya-rasa. Sakhya-rasa is included within madhurya-rasa, so sakhya-bhava is also within him, but he is in madhurya-rasa…
When you are situated in raganuga-bhakti, you will be able to factually see that his relationship with Sri Sri Radha and Krsna is in gopi-bhava. Then you can deeply think of his services to the Divine Couple in nikunja yuno rati keli siddhyai. "
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"You should not think of Gurudeva like a fashion. In fact, you should have more faith in Guru than in Krsna. Krsna will never cheat you, but even if He will cheat you, Sri Gurudeva will not cheat you.
And you should not try to cheat Gurudeva by trying to hide the contents of your heart and thinking, "Oh, Gurudeva should not know." He knows everything, so why attempt to cheat him?
At the time of Srila Bhaktivedanta Swami Maharaja there were no disciples advanced enough to understand what kind of faith one must have in the lotus feet of Gurudeva, nor were they able to understand his identity and mission.
His disciples thought only that their Gurudeva had come to spread nama-sankirtana. This is not his greatest glory.
This is one aspect of his glory, but there is more.
His real glory is that he is Dayita-dasa.
Srimati Radhika is Dayita, Sri Krsna’s most beloved, and Her dasi is Sri Gurudeva. This is his supreme glory.
You should realize who he is.
If a person who claims to be Guru is not actually that glorious, how can he give krsna-prema to the whole world? If he has no krsna-prema, not even a scent of krsna-prema, how can he give it?
If he has no raganuga-bhakti, how can he give it?
If he does not even have vaidhi-bhakti – like Prahlada Maharaja who performed sravanam-kirtanam Visnu-smaranam (pure hearing, chanting and remembering the Supreme Lord) – how can he preach? Such so-called gurus are fallen, and other fallen persons will think, "Oh, my Gurudeva is very, very high." But he is actually fallen like his disciple.
So you must learn and realize how to discriminate."
Srila Bhaktivedanta Narayana Maharaja Srila Gurudeva
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"Someone has the idea that Swamiji was only of friend rasa, friendship mood, that he was like a friend.
But any friend cannot glorify Krsna with the words ‘jaya kunja bihari.’ Can he do? He has no right to this.
‘Jaya radha-madhava.’ ‘Jaya kunja bihari,’ especially this. Those who are in friendship rasa they cannot do. They will appreciate it.
So I told that actually he, Swamiji, was not a friend, in friendship rasa.
He can make any poetry like this, sometimes.
Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura has written so many kinds of poetries.
Sometimes Krsna like son, sometimes like dasya-rasa, sakhya-rasa, vatsalya-rasa, so many things, but actually he was Kamala-manjari.
So Swamiji has made some poetry in a special case for a special thing like friendship]rasa.
But how he can glorify Him if he’s in only friendship rasa with the words ‘jaya kunja bihari?’"
Srila Bhaktivedanta Narayana Maharaja Srila Gurudeva
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[Srila Gurudeva Bhaktivedanta Narayana Goswami Maharaja:]
"Srila Rupa Gosvami said that Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu came here to offer the beauty of the mood of Srimati Radhika – service to Her lotus feet. Bhaktivedanta Swami Maharaja descended to give this service…."
EOQ BUT MORE TO COME
The following links below lead to an essay in 3 parts by Mukunda Das, a Disciple of Srila Bhaktivedanta Narayana Goswami Maharaja
How to understand that Srila Prabhupada is in madhurya rasa, but manifested sakhya part 1
How to understand that Srila Prabhupada is in madhurya rasa but manifested sakhya part 2
How Srila Prabhupada has both rasas and why, part
Scriptural evidence and quotes send by various devotees collected by Sudevi dasi on FB